Alright. I- We were talking- or I mentioned earlier on Geocaching across the three Paul Smith from Aylesbury and you're a geocache.

I certainly am.

Ok. I wonder where is the best to get out of you here Paul...errm... Geocaching has got- What's it got to do? What is it about?

It's essentially a high-tech treasure hunt game, where you use personal GPS -and I'm waggling one at you now-

Yeah

to get you to the right area, and then you have to hunt out this little hidden box, or container-

Which is emitting something is it?

No, no no. This, the GPS detects satelites and that's what gets you to the right place, and then the little thing you're looking for is or a big sort of hiddne magnetic e who like hunt and there are people who like to do both.

We have a very fine Treasure Quest give out clues and the listeners help Anika Rise-esque

It is yes, Geocaching.com.

There's been a lot in the news about GPS and satelite systems and all that Sunday afternoons

We try not to. No. It's a a sport for It's We don't do it en-mass as a rule.

But when- So who started doing it then Paul?

It was in 2000. Some Americans decided it'd be kinda fun to hide something in the woods and publish the co-ordinates on the Internet and some other Americans went and found it. From there it sort of snowballed. Now there's caches in pretty much every country around the world. There's atleast 10,000 in the UK, but it's still kind of- you kno.

So how does it work? I'd register with you and say I want to play?

You'd go to a web site, geocaching.com. That's c a c h ing, not cashing

Is it every weekend?

any time of the day, any day of the year.

What, and is there a little treasure there waiting for you?

Well, the little tiny ones have only got a logbook, or a little log sheet, just so you can prove you've actually visited before you go back to the web site and make your log there. Um, but the bigger ones, they've got -you know- bits and bobs; McDonalds toys, blank CDRs, books...um, car air fresheners...

Alright, it's geocaching.com..

Ahhh. Well, ummm. There is an element of Anorak I suppose just because it's a high-tech game. Umm. But no, it's very popular with families-

But there's no real skill to it, is there?

I would certainly not say that!

Do you want my Nicky Campbell

Well, Um. If the arrow is saying it's 500 yards in one direction but there's a river, um, a busy road- You know, there's lots of natural obstacles between you and the-

Ah, I see, yes.

-point. Sometimes the skill is actually in getting to that location.

Paul Taylor [sic] good to see you. You'll be

In the UK, there's probably 4 or 5 active- 4 or 5! 4 or 5 thousand active geocachers, um, looking for about 5,000 caches hidden in the UK. There's over 100,000 of these 'treasure boxes' hidden around the world in over 200 countries. So it's- from starting in 2000 in America, it really has snowballed.

My goodness. And how long have you been at it?

I started in the middle of 2003 and I'm just coming up to my 400th find, now.

I'll shall have to have a look. Geocache.com, did you say?

GeocachING.com.

GeocachING.com. Well thanks very much for introducing it to us. Huh!"